Posts by Las Malvinas son Argentinas

The problem stems from Croatia evidently having a "private prosecutor" procedure. I can't help but think this stems from the Yugoslav Wars era and the aftermath in the late 90s. Countries like Croatia and Bosnia were devastated. There had to have been people guilty of crimes such as destruction of property, looting and false imprisonment. Basically, too small of potatoes to be hauled in front of a tribunal in The Hague. People were angry and wanted a more direct way of getting justice instead of making a complaint to the police and hoping they have the resources to prosecute.

The private prosecutor feature in the Croatian courts seems to be a result of this. Also, since many of the culprits were from Bosnia or Serbia, there was likely an issue of jurisdiction which was covered by the law. What they didn't intend was for this method to be used to prosecute foreigners for what amounts to digital insults on the internet.

That is precisely what Cora Latham is being sued for. She made no videos and did not appear in her husband's two videos. No, she's being sued because of snarky and insulting tweets and retweeting some of what Kim and others tweeted.

Look at Twitter, especially now that Musk has taken over. As you read this, thousands of insulting tweets, some with information which is not accurate are being sent. Imagine the legal chaos if even 25% of those were privately prosecuted over international borders.

The issue of extortion would have to be based on what the law is in Croatia. Since they allow private prosecution, this is not likely extortion. Is it extortion in countries without private prosecution? Probably.

Take Lloyd's statement from 10 June (which is still up):

(2) The warning letters were non-negotiable and purely a part of the pre-trial process. They were not an intimidation strategy. My lawyers informed me there was no legal compulsion to send them but it would weigh in my favor if I gave those defaming me an opportunity to stop and make recompense. None of the defendants who received warning letters heeded them so we can move straight from pre-trial to the trial stage. In other words, there was one acceptable response to the warning letters, i.e. "I/we apologise and will comply with your request." Since no response of that kind was forthcoming, the lawsuit was filed.

He offered a settlement option but did not conduct it in good faith. No counter-offers were acceptable to him. People were either to pay him €3000 or €8000 and take down all content related to him or be sued. All damages were arbitrarily set by him. Countries without private prosecutor laws would definitely count that as extortion had it happened in their countries. This is why the whole lawsuit suing people with absolutely no connection with Croatia is going to be so fruitless. It might be legal in Croatia, but it won't fly in most other countries.

Evans has taunted several of his targets by sarcastically advising them to get a "good" Croatian lawyer. This comment actually has a point. The only way there is a trial is if the accused can be tricked into hiring a Croatian lawyer. This could be taken as tacit acknowledgement that they are indeed liable under Croatian laws and procedures.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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I almost couldn't buy toys for my kids because of the defamation but I can buy them for myself as collectors items?... Bruh!!! Talk about a what the heck moment

Lloyd’s a liar and no one should believe anything he says. Even on his videos attacking WT he’s been known to exaggerate or sensationalise information in order to gain more clicks.

He can afford the $60 Darth Vader toy. He can afford haircuts and toys for his daughters.

Also initiating the lawsuit and complaining about the amount of money he paid the lawyers doesn’t help his claims of poverty.

He’s also going on beach holidays every few months and is making no secret about it.

His problem right now is his money making empire disguised as activism has been exposed, even to his followers. He’ll never be able to crowdfund for anything like he used to for the simple reason that everyone, supporter or detractor, knows quite well he has the money. Most of his Patrons have left, knowing precisely what their money is being used for.

2022 is his “Joel Osteen has a private jet” moment.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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When he says he's living in Zagreb, does that mean he and Dijana have separated?

This is according to Lloyd’s own words as his wife hasn’t said ANYTHING. So take this as you will, but again, this is according to him.

He and Dijana separated in late March and he moved to Zagreb in early April. Here is his comment from Kim’s video about him hitting up a London dating event:

He’s been posting in the Zagreb Expats FB group since early April. He’s also created a new Instagram account to hit on Instagram models either based in Zagreb or will be appearing there. His flat and his studio are located there. It’s probably a safe assumption that his wife and girls are still living with her parents in a flat above their home in Sisak.

As for the pics with his wife and girls on the Croatian beach, those were taken in September round his birthday.

I must opine that whilst it’s strange for a wife who was publicly outted as not sexually compatible after a humiliating Thai hooker scandal to allow herself and her children to be used as a PR prop on social media afterwards, it’s probably safe to say that the relationship between Lloyd and Dijana Evans is no conventional one.

If I were her age and came to the conclusion that Lloyd Evans was the best I could do for dick, then I respectfully ask that I be drug out into the street and shot.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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Is it just me.but everytime something bad happen to him or he look like a complete idiot, he makes a post with one of his little girls

That’s exactly what he’s doing. Fairly good odds they know about the M7 and the lawsuit too.

And those girls are absolutely fucked as children on both sides since they have a mother who is already manipulated by him and grandparents who are scared of saying anything lest he forbids them to see the girls.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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He’s indoctrinating those girls. On one, he said he explains the paradise doctrine to his oldest and she exclaims: “How can it be paradise if everyone dies!”.

He should know quite well how traumatic that teaching was when growing up as a JW. Why expose your kids to it, even if you are taking a counterpoint? Her response tells me he went into details about billions dead and probably even quoted Tony Morris on the “burning flesh” quote.

What’s wrong with him? Can’t they grow up as normal children? Wasn’t that his main complaint in his book regarding his own childhood?

Does he talk to them about Jews in ovens and kids shrieking in agony before dying at Jonestown after they drank the Kool-Aid?

The second tweet is a pic of his youngest holding a book entitled “The Anatomy of Fascism”. He claims she chose it. It has a bland cover so I seriously doubt she’d choose it. And he just so happened to be speaking about Fascism when they were watching the Indians Jones movie. But out of all books she chose that. Right. So he’s basically taking them to a book store HE wants to go to and talking about things HE wants to talk about.

He took the tweet down for the removed video but his FB post is still up with the broken link. His followers are wondering where the video went:

All Wally did was point Cults to Con to the truth about Lloyd, meaning what he has said himself and admitted to. She saw it, understood she was deceived and dropped him.

Why are people all round the world, of different backgrounds all falling for what he terms as “Kim’s lies”? At what point does he turn inward and reflect upon it? It seems the more people reject him the more adamant he gets about fighting back.

It’s really pathetic at this point. Anyone who cares anything about him cough*Dijana*cough would be wise to clue him into this even though he’s likely to push back.

Maybe it’s none of her business either. It’s not like it’s affecting their kids or anything like that.

Oh wait…

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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We love you, Wally…

I’m with Derek on this…. It actually exposes her when her viewers find out exactly who LE is. As for Lloyd, it’s quite a fall to be interviewed for such a minuscule channel about Mormons.

I’d I were a Patron, I’d wonder when that promised yearly “documentary” when he hit 380 Patrons is coming out. November is here in a few days…

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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Five hundred dollars would be a big advance for a first time author.

Lloyd expected much more. It's all there on his "I've started writing my Book" thread.

I've started writing my book... (jehovahs-witness.com)

(Can't resist, here are some choice excerpts..)

I really do appreciate your careful thought regarding my project. I think I will stick with plan A (the book proposal) for now, and if that fails I can always resort to plan B (writing the book anyway, and maybe going down the self-publishing route). If I go with plan B, I may well choose a pen name and forget the whole "disclosure" idea. My idea to go out with a bang would only really work if I achieve decent circulation, which is why I'm giving this project everything to make the book as attractive as possible for a potential publisher.

I intend to write a chapter on the JW approach to sex, marriage and morality, and how Society doctrines in this regard have impacted on me personally

Interviews may well play some part, depending on circumstances. If I get a decent advance, I may well invest some of it in visiting a few individuals in person!

Well, this is the furthest I've ever made it in a book-writing attempt so far - 23 pages and still going strong. Instead of doing just one sample chapter for the book proposal, I'm doing two.

$500 wouldn't have even covered one plane ticket outside of a Zagreb-UK shuttle. He was talking about getting an advance big enough to fly all over the world and interview exJWs. He also wanted enough to fly into the annual Tahoe Apostafest.

Seriously read through that thread. It's only 9 pages long.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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I remember that little book signing he did at some tiny bookstore... god love them for hosting an event but he was obviously so excited, like people would be lined up around the block to meet him. I thought I heard that literally no one showed except some xJWs that he had asked to arrange it or something?

I remember the first signing in London was a disaster. Back then Lloyd had everyone else do shit for him and all he had to do was show. It was at a coffee shoppe that allowed him to rope off a small section for signing. Problem was Lloyd wanted to assess a cover charge. The establishment had no such charge, so calls were made and it was all news to them he was doing that. Not even JK Rowling or other writers assess a cover charge. You get a signature if you purchase a book on the spot. Not Lloyd, he wanted to fund from all possible angles. Keep in mind this is after crowdfunding $20K USD to cover the cost of printing and marketing the book, including going on book tours. Like Watchtower, he wanted to be doubly compensated and he was.

The woman who put on the signing event met Lloyd beforehand and asked if she could get a copy to read. She was told flat out "no" and that if she wanted one she needed to purchase it. Lloyd was also acting funny, thinking this was a huge event in exJW history and wondered if he had enough pens to sign.

There was a moderate crowd, not sparse but not something to be bragging about.

On the American leg of the tour he got bigger crowds, I remember he was bragging about one being attended by 50 people. Of course, he took his wife and daughter and all the transportation and incidentals such as hotels and restaurants were crowdfunded by local exJWs. He went to Baltimore, New York and maybe another city like Philadelphia of Washington, can't quite remember. But when he flew to the west coast, he had a car rented for him and he drove from Los Angeles with stops in San Francisco, Salem Oregon, Seattle and Vancouver BC. All covered by the generosity of others. His trip to Australia was similarly funded.

He intended on renting a caravan for a tour through the American East Coast, South and Midwest. But for whatever reason that fell through, probably because of a lack of funding. Caravans are not cheap to rent, and it was getting a bit blatant that he was double-dipping these book tours with holiday time for his family.